There are multiple reasons but a large one being Im just not educated enough. One fan shared a detailed card about it along with the message, "And if anybody wants to get brave about their past mistakes, heres a link with receipts and explanations. Please think before you write these messages. Mamamoo are good, genuine people. Anyway, just my thoughts. 5) Again, I included the Kangin thing because I have seen a huge amount of fans get upset by it. You can decide to remove them from your lives, not support them, not give them any attention, money or time, but death threats? Hwasa trolled for past racism as #AskHwasa trends, Internet asks which ethnicity she will 'offend' next. I'm not dismissing them or overlooking them, but I know that there was no ill intent in what they did and that they're doing their best. Watch popular content from the following creators: natalie(@chuusvideogame), matching pfp with @asapminho(@ryyujinnn), Malaiya<3 (@soulspotato__), donnie<3(@twicesring), number one heejin stan(@realchaeyoungpark) . [3] }); Its kinda iffy, and as a trans & queer person it definitely rubs me the wrong way :-//. I did include apologies though, such as Shindongs, Kangins and Zhoumis. But their fans always informed them about their insensitive actions and Mamamoo always immediately apologized. During their concert on Friday in Seoul, Mamamoo released a. As for the Kris thing, Im aware its Heechuls opinion, but considering Kris left for very valid reasons (and was practically being abused by SM, as it seems many of the Chinese members were) I would say that it could be consideredproblematic to call Kris disrespectful for leaving, especially after all the shit he got from fans and the members themselves. Mamamoo Has Been Receiving Hate Storms- And It's Only Getting Worse. After Wendys tragic and heartbreaking fall, immediately there were dozens upon dozens of tweets wishing Hwasa could take her place and become horribly injured. It's just crazy how haters can twist every single thing. It really does hurt reading them, crazy to know about the double standards too :((. The sun will always shine for us. MAMAMOO's Hwasa is a cast member in the MBS reality show I live Alone (literal translation). A lot of my followers have been a huge help and Ive learned a lot myself. I did do that on my exo masterpost, but I also spent a lot more time and thought on that post as well. }); It arguably began around late 2018 Windflower era, when antis began to change Mamamoo's music video titles to racial slurs and death threats. This page was loaded Sep 23rd 2021, 9:34 pm GMT. They received their first music show win in 2016 with Youre The Best and have since gone on to win dozens more, ending 2019 with a combined total of 41 music show wins, making them one of the most highest winning girl groups in history. I'm sure I'm still unlearning a lot of things today. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Goodnight. This brings us now to the true reason for this article. }); Mamamoo's Hwasa has come under fire more than once after accusations of racism and cultural appropriation. I feel like my SuJu MP wasnt anywhere near as thorough as the exo one because I have exams at the moment so I was unable to spend as much time on it, so Id really appreciate it if people sent me anything they think I missed. If you haven't, let me enlighten you. Their interactions with their fans and staff members are so sweet and genuine, and they do their best to be inclusive of everyone (like Wheein taking her time to speak to a deaf fan and doing some sign language, Hwasa going on the floor to sign a fan's cast---the list goes on). Each controversy mamamoo has had is different from the next, yet people will hold a grudge and use any excuse to keep hating them. and I know it would've been much, much lower if I didn't force y'all to give the NMIXX songs an average of at least 3.00. We have, arguably, a smaller fan base in a way - at least internationally - so its a little easier to see those hate thorns in-between the roses. hitType: 'event', Her wig: Now I can understand how it can be seen as cultural appropriation. Solar | Moonbyul | Wheein | Hwasa. when something is scripted) or it is something they did along time ago and havent done since. When you choose to spend that privilege constantly mocking and harassing people online, well, karma's going to come back to you, in some form or another. They never went into these situations with the intent of hurting or offending anyone. Advanced Faker. When asked about it, she replied that it was an homage to Rihanna, who wore something similar in a performance, as RIhanna is one of the people she looks up to the most. She gets loads of comments drenched in colourism and misogyny about her genitals and looks its truly vomit worth. Read more about it here. 2) Its a good thing that people talk about suju being problematic? The callout, this time, however, was linked to the singer's inclusion of Latin-themed elements in her song's lyrics and music. Please put a * at the end of the message if you don't want it published. That crosses every sort of line. ga('ads.send', { All this being said, Mamamoo is truly know, not as huge award/reality show winners, but as an idol group of the people. }); omg lol at everything written under heechul. }); Again I apologise for any of the harm I have caused with this blog, it was definitely unintentional, but thats no excuse. Nobody is saying you cant like these idols, everybody messes up at some point, but dont call other people sensitive just because you might have a higher tolerance level. Only four hours after the incident occurred, both Mamamoo and their company RBW wrote out an apology in both Korean and English and posted it online. Contents 1 History 1.1 Pre-debut 1.2 2014: Debut with Hello, and Piano Man 1.3 2015: Pink Funky 1.4 2016: Melting, MOOSICAL and Memory 1.5 2017: MOOSICAL Curtain Call and Purple ", Hey remember dressing up in blackface with the rest of Mamamoo #AskHwasa pic.twitter.com/3AqtVlig1n, what we feeling today -er or -a? With the Henry thing, I also understand where youre coming from. And this links back to other instances of Hwasa being called out for cultural appropriation, the most recent being her wearing what appeared to be a traditional Nigerian outfit on the MBC show 'I Live Alone'. In order to do that, I must describe the actions Mamamoo has done in the past that received the most vocal and widespread backlash, and then explain what happened as a result. I also hear about a clown outfit she wore in one of their videos that people again try to say was blackface but how when she's naturally tan and didn't look any different than normal so I was like huh. Solar will previal . We all make mistakes and Mamamoo is no exception. }) yeah, suju has done problematic stuff and i agree, we shouldnt defend it or excuse it, its good to have that kind of discussion. She made her solo debut with the single "Spit It Out" on April 23, 2020.She released her first extended play : Face with its . Hwasa, while covering the track, read the lyrics as is, leading to the gaffe. okay so people seemed to find my exo masterpost pretty helpful and I'm very aware that suju aren't exactly the least offensive group around, so (since the YFIP one isn't very up-to-date) I thought I'd make a super junior masterpost since I'm a suju fan and I want to provide helpful resources for other fans . I really dislike fat girls. Um yeah they are just that close that they make fun of each other. One of the latest developments in recent times, that is currently drawing attention on online communities such as Nate/Pann and Twitter is the promotional period of K-Pop groups/soloists. I have a tendency to get a bit defensive and come across as rude/mocking/patronising/self righteous when I dont mean to, which Im trying to work on, but its hard to tell when Im doing it, so I try to avoid argument a lot. Its blatantly homophobic and transphobic, like, there is no possible way you could deny that. And it appears they still hold her accountable for it, largely owing to past instances of appropriation, such as wearing a durag. Mamamoo member Hwasa is one of the most compelling female idols. To discuss the bullying and harassment Mamamoo now receives daily, we must first lay out what originally brought out all the hate. I don't think anything they have done has been malicious, however it was a product of maybe not being knowledgeable of what may be considered offensive to others. And while her more recent missteps are nowhere near what she has done in the past, they still, nonetheless, fall in the realm of what many consider offensive. As Ive said before, I dont know everything, and I try to provide sources for what I post, but Im a bit cynical and I can sometimes put too much trust into what other people say, so please, please, please call me out if you notice me spreading misinformation (it will always be appreciated) and I will update the masterpost. My first mistake was actually assuming that the video at the source was still there (because it had been last time I checked) and so I thought people would automatically know that he said it a long time ago judging by the video itself. Mamamoo ( Korean : , stylized in all caps) [2] is a South Korean girl group formed by RBW (formerly WA Entertainment) in 2014, composed of four members: Solar, Moon Byul, Whee In and Hwa Sa. One tweet under the #AskHwasa hashtag read, "Where did you get ur African auntie outfit from?? The post isnt supposed to be the be-all-and-end-all of offensive super junior. I did watch the video when it was up but it was a while ago and I dont remember exactly what he said. the Eunhyuk WGM thing being scripted). I do understand that some things which look like reaches to other people arent always reaches though. offensive/misogynistic comments to his Cyworld account, Kai was in charge of skin color in the group, my noona is a little on the tanned side, no wonder why you guys acted like you were so close with each other, I thought the lights were not entering over there, said that he has Kai saved as Blackie in his phone contacts, in a pre-debut video with a hard -er at the end, how can you say something that doesnt even make sense?, Chanyeol asked Kai if he wanted to lighten his skin, Dont misunderstand us. As much as I have enjoyed running this blog, there are lots of aspects of it which have purely been a source of anxiety and distress for me. ), http://ourbridgeisforever.tumblr.com/post/117874134598/hi-i-just-wanted-to-comment-on-your-tag-about, http://ourbridgeisforever.tumblr.com/post/117835308868/ayabewakasa-one-unsubstantiated-article-that, http://ourbridgeisforever.tumblr.com/post/118060768918/about-the-issue-of-siwon-saying-no-to-the-fanboy, http://ourbridgeisforever.tumblr.com/post/119551166438/baekbitchyeol-catchmeinthedrift. You are entitled to your own opinion, and if what Mamamoo has done is considered too ignorant or rude for you to support them anymore, that is 100% in your right to not excuse them for it. So many public figures coming out and vouching for Mamamoos talent and success only continues to prove their worth and value to the world. And please send me a link when you upload the video, Id be interested in seeing your translation. The most ridiculous thing I have heard it that Hwasa try to be black like how by being Confident and unapologetic about her skin tone, clothing and looks cause she radiates hotness. Thanks for posting this. Im also scared of spreading misinformation and making mistakes (both of which are things I have done), and I dont like the idea of people feeling too intimidated to call me out when I mess up. hitType: 'event', Ive said before that my intent is to provide information, and that should include context and possible explanations, and Im sorry it didnt. }); Regardless, a fan who thinks that its not a problem isnt going to hold it against Heechul, the point of the post isnt to make you hate the idols (Heechul is literally one of my ultimate biases) its just supposed to be informative. The controversies surrounding Mamamoo sometimes hurt for sure, because you can tell that theyre pretty genuine in who they are without putting on too much of a show, arent out to get or hurt anyone, and are capable of realizing when they have made mistakes. document.querySelector("#ads").addEventListener('click',function(){ Im not trying to run away from anything, if you have issues with any of the things I say or do (because I am privileged in certain aspects) please dont feel afraid to bring them up! Normal version comes with 1 random photocard out of 4. No it doesnt excuse what theyve said, but its likely that they have changed, which is something everybody does and it should be embraced. Apink made an exciting appearance on the recent July 1 episode of SNL Korea, but one of the show's skits featuring member Bomi has caused a wave of backlash among fans and viewers. Another chose to call out an even older incident, one in which Hwasa used the n-word while covering a Beyonc song. My mom would like to know #AskHwasa, is mama africa a good name for you? Joined: May 2022. Our team is real men., Actually, we are all men, real men ah! On top of that, they bash the fans saying we overlook everything and that Mamamoo should have been cancelled by now. In the show, there are co-cast members Par Na Rae and Han Ye Jin. They are known and respected by the general public, for their powerful vocals and performances, and can only go up in relevance from here. Now you may be wondering, this dating news had absolutely nothing to do with Mamamoo, why were Moos suddenly preparing for a new war against Hwasa hate comments? Honestly there is nothing wrong with what they said. hitType: 'event', Of course I was disappointed in some of the things they've done and said, but we all make mistakes and they've acknowledged them and apologized. But i was told online that even after apologised that they did it again but I couldn't find anything that showed that the only thing I found was Solar doing a beggar impersonation SNL in 2016 but that's not blackface or colourism as I have seen people try to argue, as homeless do get dark or tanner as they are unable to clean themselves properly and are outside all the time. Joined: Mar 2022 #5. Non fans for all the questions, suggestions, reviews, anything. Others were soon reminding Hwasa once again of her past mistakes, including wearing blackface along with the rest of Mamamoo in a performance where they were parodying Bruno Mars. Ive privated the post because it was very poorly made and I acknowledge that, however, some of the criticism Im getting is from 1) people who havent actually read the post and 2) people who are refusing to acknowledge some of the things I did include in it. gads_event = event; its actually really frustrating when sources get deleted because then theres no definite way to tell exactly what somebody said. window.googletag.cmd.push(function() { Solar Moonbyul Wheein Hwasa Results are only viewable after voting. Not saying they should be excused for the things that have hurt other peoples feelings, but I dont think causing controversy or hurt would ever really be their intention for anything. } This is extremely disheartening, as Hwasa has spent her entire life fighting against such backwards thoughts as that. Lose some weight, why cant you take care of yourself. We will not waver; we will not tire; we will not falter, and we will not fail. 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