Cal. They have a manual shut off. This one honeywell water heater thermostat is completely a lemon.. OK just replace with newer updated green computer board without the sensor.. New ones dont have Sensor clip or wire. worked for me. That said, I decided to tackle this replacement as I wasnt going to shell out a couple hundred for someone to come in and do it. US Government safety features. I turned the knob to just the Hot setting and it fired up ! I have to buy parts, shipping and all. Any suggestions? That visit its no guarantee that they will give you a new valve. All that Sears tried to do was sell me a warranty extension for $199. Getting some hugs and kisses from the wife. Appreciate the guidance. Good luck, and be sure to write Whirlpool and tell them their tank design valve is a piece of crap. Now, I urge CAUTION when performing this fix as, without a working pilot, you could accumulate an appreciable amount of gas and risk an explosion. Went back to buy a new thermostat. The WT8840 is powered from a thermopile heated by the standing pilot flame. I tried to call Honeywell just to ask and they wont give me any info because I didnt have the model number on me. Thats what this sounds like and shorting across it is perfectly OK. Culminating in a permanent fault condition. followed your instructions for shorting the 2 pins and re-light worked just like you said. Deliberately, maliciously, and probably under the pretense of safety. After reading through everything in both Cranky and DBs posts a couple more times, finding a 9v battery and making a second jumper wire to try the battery procedure described in DBs post, I went back to the unit, turned the gas supply back on and re-lit the pilot, when BINGO! Read all these posts Sunday and tried the unplugging of the board then relighting pilot. My error condition began with very short intervals of error which reset themselves without my doing anything. I tried a few things and finally did a pilot light start up with everything attached, took the front cover of the module off with the lights blinking X4, the pilot went out and the blinking stopped. I had to be transferred to water heater division and wait on hold a while but it was well worth it.). Ill let you know in a year! So in my opinion, WAIT the extra day and save yourself the $20.One thing Johnathon DID request was I send the old one back and that he would place a return label in the packageWell I live 23 miles from town and not going to do a rush job for thatAND I kinda put the replacement on standby and like DB saidClearing the fault it may last for days or MONTHS before it does it again! The entire process from start to finish, including 2 stops to Lowes (once for tools, second for piping) and draining/refilling tank took over 2 hours. Fall Protection Products. However, the length and duration of self-correcting fault conditions rapidly grew more frequent and longer over a matter of days. Remove the ivory-colored plastic front of the gas valve from the back of the unit. Page bookmarked! Thanks for the info. and cannot get circuit board outtheres a screw of some sort and and something that looks like glass attached before it will let go? The dreaded 4 red flashes. I replaced the bad push button with the old one and did the Franken valve face switch. Honeywell has a scam going, I paid over $500,00 for my water heater and several hundred to have it installed, since day one I have had nothing but trouble with the Honeywell thermostat,gas valve. The comfort range is very small. I am extremely grateful for this information! in about 3 years. Ive had my Rheem 7 months . Thanks to this blog and everyones exploits with the Frankenvalve Heres what worked so far for me on a neighbors unit: Voltage Maximum: 850 mV dc, open circuit. water heater $500-$800, pro lic installer $400 $30-$$60 shipping cost for Valve. I reset it and it worked again for a few days. Note the LED flash sequence. Cost to replace Honeywell Water Heater Wv880b1309 0 Solutions The pilot light went out and we gave not been able My hat is off to you David, I followed you instruction and it clear the fault and is now heating my water. Ive been keeping an eye on the heater ever since installing, so I was able to notice this. i was still under warranty so the valve was free less $30 overnight shipping. The thing is less then a week old!! My house is going into escrow and it worked on my red light control board and saved me from buying a new control board or WH! On 21 November, 2014 I performed the fix that Charles described on 29 July, 2014. be similar to whats being discussed here, except my Whirlpool has electronic ignition and a flue damper that opens and closes. Sears is charging $181.64. https://www.flickr.com/photos/7428166@N07/13946540277/. combustion chamber. Thanks again. i did just what you described and my water heater is finally on. 4. Now when the pilot starts and the pilot valve pulls in, and the status light starts blinking, look at the code. Now the replacement goes on the fritz. reinstalled later in the day and it went to one blink clicked the pilot on and turned to hot and presto! Press down on the plastic cover in front of the clips to release them. Chapters Replacing Honeywell WV8840B1042 WV8840B1109 WV8840B1110 with WT8840B1000 5 flash blink error problem Nathan LeMarbe 592 subscribers Subscribe 4.7K views 2 years ago Just finished. Clearly the valve controller is mis-designed. I really did not want to mess with wires inside so extremely glad this works for this controller. ( P.S. Then connected one end of wire to the metal frame of the valve and randomly shorted numerous positions on the bottom of the circuit board.. i.e. reattach the front cover with the wires still unplugged and light your pilot. When I checked the water heater the status light was not blinking at all. (Published under a different name to sow maximal confusion). Lastly, be VERY careful when ordering your replacement unit, in that one has a square COM plug with four pin slots. For more information forwardthinking.honeywell.com Home and Building Technologies 1985 Douglas Drive North Golden Valley, MN 55422 . I was told that you can use the yellow teflon and sealant for gas and water, but the water products do not work on gas. repeat steps gas valve.. Resetting the #$%@!! DB: Instructions are clear and hope to follow this to override the Honeywell piece of crap Gas Control Thermostat on my 2.5 year old 50gal tank. My new controller has a white blinking LED that will not reset. Thanks to this thread and bigger thanks to David Boone and the follow on info from CrankyTenants, after 10+ days without hot water and zero expense my water heater is now performing as intended again. I called Whirlpool customer service, got the replacement valve for $30 cost of the shipment. I told them BS, that I was going to install it myself. Interestingly though, I tried this method two times and each time it didnt appear to have worked as I continued to receive a 4 flash fault code. Turned the dial to low and it started heating. You need to drain the tank completely because the valve sensor is about one inch diameter probe that screws into the side of the tank from the back of the valve. That was their only solution. Honeywell Water Heater WV8840B1109 0 Solutions WATER HEATER MANUAL Honeywell Water Heater Wv8840b5068 0 Solutions pilot light blink 4 times every 3 seconds says ove Honeywell Water Heater Gas Water Heater 1 Solutions Not working. THANKS & GOD BLESS. Is there a replacement gas valve that people have had success with? Still four flashes. I, too, experienced the dreaded 4-flash-of-death failure after about 8 months of use, was given the replacement valve, did the complete flush of the tank only to discover no sediment issues and, as with most of the rest of you, received a valve with a different color indicator light. Light the pilot light as normal. Thank you for you detailed instructions. Takes one screw driver to unscrew the one screw on the bottom of the controller. Big thanks from MN! It is also an adjustable regulator that insures proper gas pressure for combustion. Well, tried this with TWO circuit boards (one was original w/red LED, the second was replacement w/white LED). > Isnt there any way to tell the gas valve to [reset the error condition]? All models of, WT8840 include an integrated NTC temperature, The WT8840 is powered from a thermopile heated by, the standing pilot flame. I replaced it in a couple of hours and we were back in business. I have a newer version. I tried letting the circuit board sit, unplugged, for an hour and a half but that did not clear the four flash code. started getting 7 blinks, felt hopeful, turned it to hot and heard the burner come on. Does the brains look at the voltage from thermopile to check for over heating or underheating? READ THEIR INSTRUCTIONS A FEW TIMES OVER! I have a red knob with green LED, and white cover. CS8840 pilot assemblies are designed for use with this control. This changes to red flash code when there is an abnormal condition. I used sealant on all the piping going into the valve assembly however I used teflon tape for the screwing portion of the assembly that goes into the tank and touches water. Well my tank is 15 months old and it is giving the 4 flash death sign, called everywhere for parts, can only get from Whirlpool and 3 days later. When that gets combined with another situation it can then escape the tight loop it appears to be in and in effect resets itself. Since I dont have a location near me and have a demanding household for hot water, I opted for the $30 overnight shipping option. Top left is a small dot and top right is a post. I am now an expert at gas valves. But I just wanted to confirm is there no way to reset the 4 blink code for a newer, white light, unit? The reset button only works if the overheating occurred in the heating chamber. Put the cover back on temporarily with the connector still disconnected. Im assuming that the old board just completely died. Taking your screwdriver and hold it against the upper right pin and the lower pin for about 3 seconds. One of the comments below, describes a way to do this by hooking a battery to a couple of connection points on the board. Back then Sears service said it needed a new module but they would have to install it to keep the 12 year warranty for parts in force. Any ideas? Guess that part is personal preference but I thought Id share. My Honeywell WV8860B1309 failed after 2 years. If it does not start up on its own after the shutdown, then you may have to reconnect the battery to the right top pin and go through the above procedure again and it will shutdown again. Mine is 3 1/2 years old. These things foul the sensor causing the 4 blink death light pattern. After a lot of back and forth they sent me the module which was a breeze to install. Regulator that insures proper gas pressure for combustion it is also an adjustable regulator that insures proper gas pressure combustion... 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