He is confronted by a Steel Inquisitor, which he eventually manages to defeat by beheading him with the Inquisitor's own obsidian axe. Honestly, I am kinda confused as to what this theory is trying to say, and how it is relevant to current and future cosmere. Marsh is aware of Kelsiers current activities as a Cognitive Shadow. Also, you talked about, as I mentioned, how you want to discuss this theory. Kelsier knocked out Camon with Steelpushes and gave control over the crew to Milev. Despite her supposed betrayal, Kelsier never stopped loving her. Like all Southern Scadrians, he wears a red and black mask at all times. He feels guilty for abandoning her but does his best to help her. He was dead anyways. In the following years, Kelsier traveled the empire and learned the art of Allomancy from an old skaa Mistborn named Gemmel. Information about books that have not yet been released, like the other secret novels releasing in 2023 and Stormlight 5, is allowed only on meta-pages for the books themselves. [76], I don't want to be responsible for something happening to you, Vin. He finds Vin and Ham near the steps of Keep Venture and also learned that Dockson had died in the Battle of Luthadel. Kelsier let Vin jump over the city walls as an exercise for steel and iron and was surprised how voluntarily she did it, remembering his own training. During this time, he attempted a second breakin of Kredik Shaw, and was unsuccessful; nearly getting Vin killed in the process. Wayne is also a twinborn; his skills are Slider (creating speed bubbles) and Bloodmaker (he can store health in his metalminds in order to help facilitate healing). This page was last edited on 27 January 2023, at 22:51. The reason he would fit well as an Edgedancer is mainly because of what he picked up from Mare regarding restoring the world to the time of flowers and greenery. It depends on whether or not the head of the spear was in him, or poking out the other side without touching him. He overcomes this character flaw eventually (demonstrated by saving the noblemen Elend Venture from certain death) when Vin convinces him that there are good people among the nobility. The hearts of men are NOT YOUR TOYS. lets delve into that a little more deeply, shall we? Protecting you.Giving you power!, When Leras died and Ruin began to Splinter the Shard of Preservation, Kelsier used the Ire's orb to Connect with Preservation and Ascend, allowing him to protect the power and hold it until Vin could take it. The "Survivor's Statemark" is one of the symbols of the faith. ifKelsier was spiked? Fortnite dropped the official announcement early Friday. They were extremely successful. Kelsier at first hated Leras for claiming to be God, enough to instantly punch him. [53][54] He used this opportunity to tell Spook to send a message to Vin, warning her that any spiked person could potentially be under Ruin's control. He also has medallions which grant him Allomantic abilities. Honestly, you should have seen it coming. His most prominent trademark is the multitude of long scars running down his arms, a memento of time spent in the Pits of Hathsin. All Im saying is that whether or not TLR could have been hemalurgically spiked depends entirely upon whether or not the rebels stabbing him with spears only stabbed hard enough to just barely get the metal heads in, which would technically allow for hemalurgical side effects, or if the rebels stabbed him with enough force that the spear head went ALL THE WAY THROUGH HIM and stuck out the other side of his body, leaving him with only the wooden haft still inside of him and the metal heads not touching his insides. As punishment, Kelsier was sent to the the Pits of Hathsin to mine atium for the Lord Ruler. He is a twinborn, utilizing the Allomantic/Feruchemical skills of Coinshot (pushing metal) and Skimmer (storing his own weight to make himself heavier/lighter). I have to explain myself like, seventeen times. Yes, he's really dead. As the Sovereign, Kelsier ruled the Southern Scadrians for a time and formed another religion that deified Metalborn, and then he left. Elend lived with the weight of not being the man the people wanted. [32], Born to a noble father and skaa mother,[35] his mother kept both Kelsier and Marsh alive by pretending that she was noble to their father so that their children would be considered merely illegitimate noblemen instead of half-breeds; however, their father eventually found out. I am not yours. MeLaan: A kandra who has been around from about the time of the Catacendre. [2] He is capable of using them with a high degree of precision to control the momentum and rotation of dozens of pieces of metal simultaneously. [66] This book proved vital in solving the case of Bleeder. I want to know if it is relevant, because when things are relevant, they become not just interesting and thought provoking, but actually important. The Lord Ruler openly thanked Mare for helping his forces find the thieves, and from this, Kelsier was led to the false conclusion that Mare had purposefully betrayed him. Those who had been close to Kelsier, particularly his thieving crew, are notably discomforted by his religious image. He met with Yeden the leader of the skaa rebellion and made Yeden hire him to bring down the Final Empire. When used Allomantically, the metal is said to burn with a pure whiteness and will slowly be consumed, in the same way it would be by a Misting or Mistborn. Now that weve got that basic synopsis out of the way, lets start off with a handy character primer. At some point after his revival, he also became a prominent figure on Roshar known as Thaidakar, though he is still physically stuck on Scadrial.[1]. [30] He is quite proficient at pewter dragging and has enough practice to maintain it for hours and still maintain a fair amount of clarity afterwards. Breeze would recruit men for the rebellion, Ham would train them in the Arguois caverns, Dockson would direct the operation's finances, Clubs would hide the group's Allomancy with copperclouds, OreSeur in the role of Lord Renoux would buy the necessary equipment, Marsh would infiltrate the Steel Ministry posing as an obligator, Kelsier would use his Mistborn power to make attacks on the nobility to create tension between the houses, and Vin would gather information in the noble court posing as Renoux's niece Valette. Nothing elsehappened in that square that really advanced his plans much. I represent that one thing you've never been able to kill, no matter how hard you try. [42] Then he found the power at the Well of Ascension and became trapped there with Ruin, though merging with the power of the Well allowed him to become a Cognitive Shadow and resist the pull of the Beyond. Mistborn Era 2 takes place 341 years after the events in the original trilogy, but theres another little story that we hope youve also read that takes place between themMistborn: Secret History. He also searched far and wide for possible ways to defeat the Lord Ruler, and managed to find an ingot of the fabled Eleventh Metal (he claimed he had found it in the west, which is considered to be a lie. Kelsier later gave this drawing to Vin. After his apprentice Vin kills the Lord Ruler, OreSeur lays Kelsier's bones to rest. What are you trying to say you think happened? [55], After Sazed's Ascension and Spook's rise to political power, Kelsier began to speak with Spook about finding a way to bring himself back to the Physical Realm. With his newly awakened Mistborn powers, Kelsier killed the guards and escaped the Pits of Hathsin, murdering all the nobility and skaa who had chosen to become guards he encountered in his vicinity. The Misborn series comes recommended by Eurogamer friend Johnny Chiodini, who describes Fortnite's latest addition thus: "Kelsier is a thief, but he's also a mistborn - a person who can consume. Kelsier recruited the underworld's elite, the smartest and most trustworthy allomancers, each of whom shares one of his many powers, and all of whom relish a high . Though they suffered many setbacks, Kelsier's leadership allowed the rebellion to attain an army of sufficient size to hold Luthadel. The Inquisitors' eyespikes poked out the back. The mentor figure always ends up getting killed. Kelsier's legacy continues to influence people all across the five dominances. [2] He is capable of using them with a high degree of precision to control the momentum and rotation of dozens of pieces of metal simultaneously. A Steel Inquisitor had been present, discovering Vin's Allomancy. And you kind of responded with a lot of hate there. But strangely, he still loved him. Except if you remove the spike, you love the alteration because the Identity is not matched. Shadows of Self begins with Wax now working in conjunction with the Elendel constabulary. The elite of the underworld, each of whom had one of Kelsier's various abilities, were recruited. Cause I see what could be considered3 different theories in this one post. OreSeur incites the skaa to rebel, beginning the revolution and the overthrow of the Final Empire. Travelling back to Luthadel, he begins to assemble a thieving crew to put his plan into motion. Vin trains in and works with Kelsier's crew after he prevents Camon from beating her to death, and infiltrates the nobility under the guise of Valette Renoux, eventually helping to save the survivors of the skaa rebellion's army and killing Shan Elariel before fighting the Lord Ruler and killing him. We were having a nice, thought provoking discussion, and you added nothing to it. Kelsier discovered that Mare had given him her only geode, and was forced to watch Mare being beaten to death by the guards. He/she/it has kandra under their control, is either controlling or working with the Set, and is apparently planning on annihilating life on Scadrial as a whole. if TLR was spiked? This is why I love Brandon. [39], The plan was to secretly build up an army of twenty thousand trained skaa soldiers in the Arguois caverns while at the same time causing confusion and distrust in the nobility to cause a house war. He has a spike through his eye at the end of BoM. It's the same power, after all. Kelsier is known by many titles, the origins of which vary. Vin expected that Kelsier would use his knowledge to control her, but to her surprise, he openly explained her the eight basic metals. That is like arguing with air. They also have some sort of ties to. [11] He hates all of the nobility and tends to believe that all of them are to blame for the plight of the skaa, although near the end of his life this attitude changes due to Vin's insistence that Elend is different and that not all the nobles should be fought, although his views did not fully change, and he retained his prejudice and distrust. "Now, let's go jump that wall."Based on Brandon Sanderson's Mistborn novels, where Kelsier first teaches Vin about Allomancy.The boards are also available on. Wax thinks that he might have connections to the Set. [36] There he spent his time believing that his wife Mare had betrayed him to the Lord Ruler until he witnessed his wife being beaten to death by guards after she gifted her Atium bead to him. And, if you can, dont get all rage monster with ma boy Ishar. After Elendel was saved, Kelsier talked with Harmony, asking him to lead Scadrial into a new technological and Metalborn age so they may be better prepared for future threats and Autonomy's return.[22]. The new skin is based on Kelsier, a central character of the series. Kelsier locates this skaa, whose name was Vin. He told Suit that the Set had decided that allowing civilization on Scadrial to continue was too dangerous and that they decided to remove life on this sphere instead. The creature then activated an explosive device, apparently killing Suit. Kelsier is a Mistborn, so he can burn every Allomantic metal, although he is particularly proficient with the external physical metals iron and steel. Its relevant to the past in the cosmere. He hates injustice and takes this hatred to the extreme, which originally resulted in him being unable to see good in any of the nobility. Kelsier's martyrdom and seeming resurrection spawns a new religion, the Church of the Survivor, which venerates Kelsier's teachings. Kelsier did get metal as a Cognitive Shadow in the form of the bolt from Nazh and Khriss' chair. [33] As a Cognitive Shadow tied to Scadrial, it is difficult for him to travel to other planets via Shadesmar. He was killed by the Lord Ruler in The Final Empire, but has resurrected. When Lord Tresting attempted to rape a skaa girl, Kelsier saved her, killing Tresting and all his servants and soldiers in the process. (Otherwise, Inquisitors would be very very dead). Kelsier is seen to be not fond of the decision, but doesn't let any of his agents to assassinate her. Powers that we know of: Steelpushing (Allomantic) and Bloodmaking (Feruchemical). Immediately after his death, Kelsier arrived in the Cognitive Realm. , After discovering the Eleventh Metal Kelsier started to prepare his plan by hiring the Kandra OreSeur. Their relationship was the sort to where Gavilar was quick to believe that he was the one who ordered his murder. Before the trilogy began, Kelsier was the greatest Crewleader any Skaa had known. Except if you remove the spike, you leave the alteration because the Identity is not matched. [71] He was hours away near Southern Scadrian when Telsin planned to send a bomb on Elendel, and tasked Moonlight, TwinSoul, and Marasi to take care of it. After Holding and releasing the Shard of Preservation, Kelsier became a Sliver. Immediately after his death, Kelsier arrived in the Cognitive Realm. Their combined effort would, in the end, result in the collapse of the Final Empire. Kelsier did get metal as a Cognitive Shadow in the form of the bolt from Nazh and Khriss' chair. While conversing with Harmony regarding the case, Harmony said that Wax's casual way of talking to him reminded him of Kelsier. Marsh/Ironeyes/Death: Kelsier's Inquisitor brother, who possesses Hemalurgic spikes, allowing him to use the abilities of Hemalurgy. Even if he was though, Im kind of confused at why you think Ruin would want TLR to kill Kelsier instead of Ruin trying to have TLR kill himself somehow. [47] After that, he left the area of the Cognitive Realm surrounding Scadrial and moved closer to finding the Ire. Kelsier: The Mistborn Survivor of Hathsin who leads the Ghostbloods. He strongly disapproves of the way Kelsier flippantly kills noblemen and those who serve them without a second thought. And the Lord Ruler still had a spike in his chest when he stabbed Kelsier. Gave Entrone: An amateur archeologist who insulted Steris at a party. He was unable to do so and leaves the bit of metal for Vin, asking her in a note to figure it out. He offered to teach her about gold and atium, gave her the money he took from Camon, and allowed her to leave, as he didn't want to force anybody into his crew. [42] While he was in the Well, Hoid passed by and Kelsier essentially challenges him to a fight that Kelsier ultimately loses. If he were a Radiant, there are three Orders Kelsier might belong to: Edgedancer, Dustbringer, or Willshaper. Then he found the power at the Well of Ascension and became trapped there with Ruin, though merging with the power of the. Later, Kelsier invited a team of the best thieves in the city to a gathering in Camon's safe house. Don't make me come over there and slap you around again. ), but its been a hot minute since TheBands of Mourning was released. Some of the Survivor's less pleasant traits include his ruthlessness and prejudice. Kelsier (aka The Survivor): Kelsier was the leader of the group of thieves who went after the Lord Ruler in the original trilogy, and was the person who recruited Vin. Kelsier killed eight Hazekillers, stole a bag of atium, and made sure that it became known that a Mistborn had attacked a Great House, something forbidden by an unspoken agreement between the houses. Kelsier draws up a master plan for the job, in which he designates each member of his crew to a role. [24] This results in the skaa considering him a god, leading to the founding of the Church of the Survivor, which refers to Kelsier as "Lord of the Mists". He tells Spook that this healing was Kelsier's parting gift. Repeating myself over and over because Im misunderstood gets annoyingreal quick, so I wanna make sure Im clear with what I say. All I want is for somebody to clarify what your theory actually is. Will we learn more about him in The Lost Metal? . Kelsier was the primary mentor of Vin and crewleader to the gang who was credited for overthrowing the Final Empire. Please clarify. His healing heals his spiritweb, so it's theoretically possible to use him as an infinite source of spikes.. Of course, the WoB about it just says that spiking Hoid would work very weirdly. Until Kelsier, a brilliant half-Skaa thief and natural leader, finds in himself the powers of a Mistborn, and turns his talents to the ultimate caper, with the Lord Ruler himself as the mark. Why would it have to be relevant to the current or future cosmere? See the original version. Think of this article as one of those Last time on recaps at the beginning of a television show. Telsin Ladrian (aka Lady Sequence): Waxs estranged sister, and a high-ranking member of the Seteven higher than Mister Suit. [19] After she and Elend are killed, Kelsier spoke with them before they moved on to the Beyond. Kelsier protested, earning himself a violent beating, whereupon he Snapped. Kelsier offered to let her to join his crew. While initially hostile, in the end Kelsier's brother Marsh joined, and together the crew developed a plan to defeat the Final Empire. She agrees to join the crew in exchange for Kelsier's training. It reacts explosively to water. We do it because we want to. Marsh decided to give Wax a book explaining Hemalurgy because he believed Wax was doing Kelsier's work. TLR was being spiked by the rebels and then into Kelsier. Despite what he has told the Ghostbloods, Kelsier does not have a real avatar. [49], When he returned to Scadrial he found that Preservation's power was significantly weakened. When Kelsier was in the Cognitive Realm after his release, he often would show up to him in order to mock him and his inability to do anything. Hmmm, he was flat on the ground from the Lord Rulers hit when he was stabbed. The Lord Ruler was just too powerful and him trying to run would've destroyed any of the rebellion he was trying to build. Here they are. TenSoon wears Kelsier's bones to glean information about Vin from Luthadel guards. Kelsier also is quite adept at pewter-dragging, as he is capable of running long distances and experiencing only minor fatigue afterwards. He just didnt really understand the point you were trying to get to with your theory, so he asked. All Im saying is that theres no way to definitively know whether or not the metal heads were still inside him. A women by the codename of Codenames Are Stupid, opens communication with the leader of the Ghostbloods by the means of a seon, which shows Kelsier on an airship travelling to Elendel. [50] He stayed with her for a while after that but ultimately had to leave. Now we are two Books deep into the Second Era and maybe i need to re-read them with more cosmere awareness but i cant remember any hints of a Cognitiv/Cosmereaware Kelsier . If you dont like this theory, move on. He justifies his behavior as faithfulness to the Survivor of Hathsin, since Kelsier himself had been known to express outright hatred for the nobility. [79], This page or section contains spoilersfor, This page or section needs to be updated with new informationfor, Kelsier to the Lord Ruler, last words before death, This article is still missing information. Then he killed the noble Lord Renoux and let OreSeur impersonate him. Or does Sanderson have yet more secrets to reveal? He tries to teach Vin to smile and occasionally look on the bright side of things. Be aware that in its current state, it may not include all additional content yet. He has an imposing presence and is a natural leader, easily taking charge and swaying even the downtrodden skaa of Luthadel into joining the rebellion with his charming personality. While there he meets Ati and Hoid, as well as regularly talking with Leras, whom he believes to be God. Sixteen months later, when Kelsier was unable to get his weekly atium geode, Mare gave Kelsier hers, claiming that she had found two that week. (The Mistborn Saga #1) by Brandon Sanderson (Goodreads Author) 4. A mystery, to be sure. And we know Ruin was able to manipulatepeople, particularly unstable people like Vin's mother and Gemmel, soit possible that the rebels who stabbed the Lord Ruler were influenced by Ruin to create a Hemalurgic Spike. And he had no realistic way to escape him. [63] The Ghostbloods believe Kelsier to still have his Allomantic abilities,[64] and he appears to be playing into this lie.[32]. Steris and Marasi are both members of this religion, though Marasi admits that it is more because she was raised in it. Now lets talk a bit more in depth about Kelsier, and what hes been up to. Dustbringer also fits because of the theme of self mastery and pushing himself. Sure, maybe it would be active for a split second when touching blood or whatever like you said,but as soon as the head passes out of his body on the other side, it wouldnt affect him anymore. Even if it weren't a viable metal, as a Mistborn he would have been able to burn it, and he wasn't able to sense it at all. He forced the rest of the crew to leave, only leaving Vin. Khriss mentions the Ire which sets Kelsier onto his next quest of finding their base of operation. [24][25][3][26] He is a great agent of chaos and is very good at tearing things down and messing with what other people want. People have theorized similar about Hoid. It requires the physical anchor of the spike. , Kelsier is terrified by Ati and the power that he holds, seeing and feeling it through the Well of Ascension.[74]. Priests in this religion wear robes with stitching up the arms to emulate Kelsier's scars from the Pits of Hathsin. He died at the end of the first book in the original trilogy but theres always another secret. If it did, when Inquisitors are made, the spike would have killed them before it gained a Hemalurgic charge. [43], He and Gavilar were working against each other to an unknown extent. Kelsier considers guns to be inelegant weapons. Who, or what, is Trell? See below for the whole section on Kelsier and what hes been up to behind the scenes. Marasi and MeLaan rescue him, and he assists them on their quest to find the Bands of Mourning. He is stern and intense, but always smiling; anoth er act of rebellion against the Lord Ruler's oppression. The Lord Ruler is pierced through the chest with a spear, basically a long spike, then uses that spear to stab Kelsier. After Vin had recovered from her extensive injuries, Ham took her with him to allow her to watch him burn pewter effectively, but they quickly returned to Kelsier with news that Yeden had had his troops attack a garrison outpost against their main objective. I represent that one thing you've never been able to kill, no matter how hard you try. Harmony(fka Sazed): Harmony holds the shards of Ruin AND Preservation, and as such is (one of the) god(s) of Scadrial. Kelsier is deified and continues to be venerated more and more by the skaa as the Church of the Survivor gains popularity. Yet, his death isn't truly that sad to me. They went to the hideout themselves just in time to save Vin from Camon. Of course, it was nothing compared to The Hero of the Ages. Vin paused at her thoughts. [38] Outside the city, they saw a Mistwraith. Foopers. Kelsier is a fully trained Mistborn, despite his half-noble half-skaa ancestry. And the whole point of the Cosmere Discussion forumis to discuss irrelevant theories and minutiae about the Cosmere. In The Final Empire it can be argued that Vin represents the reader of the book as she is constantly in awe and has a great amount of respect for Kelsier.The reader is able to learn about the world, the magic and the other characters through the eyes of Vin, and because of this, we admire Kelsier, holding him up to almost a supernatural standard. Uncanonically, Brandon imagines Kelsier as using a Seon in a trench coat as his 'avatar'. Wax, Wayne, and Marasi work together to take down Miles Hundredlives, a compound bloodmaker who has been kidnapping women and stealing aluminum for a shadowy organization called The Set. At the end of the book, the kidnapped women are still missing, Miles is executed, and Wax discovers that his uncle Edwarn, whod been presumed dead, is actually alive and a member of the Set. While difficult, it is possible to obtain atium and lerasium from ettmetal, but not through mechanical means. Kelsier is a former thief from the capital city of Luthadel. The man tells a villager to "survive.". TLRwas gonna kill Kelsier anyways. Be. After being betrayed by his wife Mare on a job stealing from the Lord Ruler, Kelsier is sent to the Pits of Hathsin to mine atium geodes, one of the most sought-after Allomantic metals. Though Vin initially is wary and suspicious of him, she eventually learns to trust him, and he becomes somewhat of a father figure to her. At the end of TheBands of Mourning, we learn that aside from the Survivorists, there is also a whole civilization of people far to the south of Elendel that worships Kelsier, calling him the Sovereign. Mistborn Wiki is a FANDOM Books Community. Vin decided to stay in order to see if he told the truth about trusting others.[35]. "[3] He is referred to by Hoid as "the Lord of Scars. It all kind of depends on that. 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