In the early hours of August 13, 2018, in Frederick, Colorado, American oil field operator Christopher Lee Watts (born May 16, 1985) murdered his pregnant wife Shanann (34) by strangulation, and their two children Bella (4) and Celeste (3) by smothering them. R253, whats the Anadarko lawsuit angle? Shannan did indeed feed Bella and CeCe Thrive K. Heres an inspiring video with comments to tell you how wonderful it was. LOL. As r47 says, this case is chock-full of CHARACTERS. If he had killed Sham'ann before she was pregnant and left the kids alive, he wouldve had a chance at pleading temp insanity. Of course we can say nice things about her, too. The Mead, CO explosion occured a year before the Watts murders. I think if Shan'ann had lived she would have ended up being another Dee Dee Blanchard. I wondered why, on the initial Officer Coonrod bodycam videos, there was no furniture in the dining room. Nothing suspicious, just a little nest that most single women working in retail buy. She was a compelling personality. LEONARD had heard that SHANANN was really involved in Thrive. Worse than anything that I or any DL detective squad member dreamed upand we had a lot of theories about what went down since this happened. Didnt like his Mustang, made him sell it. The community of Frederick, Colorado and the entire nation was horrified when Chris killed his entire family in August 2018. Also said that she claimed to have been a domestic violence victim but was friendly with her ex husband. I disagree r147, not with your assertions about how the kids would've ended up, but with Chris taking any of it into consideration. However his mistress and HER boyfriend (Jim Gotuski), should also be in prison for the rest of THEIR lives. Before meeting Chris, she was married to a man named Leonard King, and they got divorced in 2009. R30, were you shilling that onesie on the old Topix forum? teacher harriet voice shawne jackson; least stressful physician assistant specialties; grandma's marathon elevation gain; describe key elements of partnership working with external organisations; I feel really sorry for poor Chris, he should not be serving a life sentence! Until her murder, her biggest problem in life was the spelling of her name. He learned of this case from social media and news. (And filed for bankruptcy in 2015!). Just stunning. And Leonard King said the same thing that it was virtually impossible to engage her in conversation. And once she was done she cut him out of her life. You seem to like the psychopath label. How much did Shanann have wrapped up in inventory? Even after she moved to CO and was a married mother. The discovery documents released by the Weld County District Attorney's office last week related to the murder investigation include an anecdote And I still want to know more about the drugs in bins in their basement. The daughters stayed home with Watts in Colorado while Shanann was on the trip, she told police. what happens to all their debt now? Hello. Your latest Netflix obsession has arrived. It looks like they plopped a development in the middle of nowhere. May be she aspired to live a little beyond their means but she didnt kill anyone not does that make her evil. But you can see a pattern here, with Shanann Pouring herself into work and not being interested in any of the things he was up to. He doesnt say but of course, we are only getting Leonards side of the story and we cant hear Shananns. Another one is when people go around telling you: Im OCD Im a straight shooter Im a scatterbrain Im not here for drama. a loan to build this house? She and the kids would still be alive and he wouldn't be spending the rest of his life in jail. Directed by Jenny Popplewell, the 82-minute true crime film uses social media footage and text messages to establish the appropriate context for the familial dynamics. (where they're hugging). Geni requires JavaScript! No doubt he snapped. Yes . True R63. They got married around 2002/2003 and divorced around 2007/2008. Watts said in televised interviews that she arrived home at around 1am on Monday August 13, claiming that that they two stayed up having an 'emotional conversation' until he left at 5.15am. Auto mechanics are catnip to gold diggers. Their last hours were terrifying & uncomfortable & their deaths were neither quick or painless. I spoke with LEONARD KING by phone on 08/15/2018 at 1427 hours. Dont interrupt me. Fact: Hisham Bedwan, co-owner and Shananns boss at Dirty South joked around with Shanann during one of her FB Live videos. I thought that we at DL had figured out what likely happened months ago (had pretty good, comprehensive theories about that night that made sense): he covered the girls faces while they were asleep in their beds (possibly even after sedating them) so they quickly died practically in their sleep and never knew that it was daddy who did it. Days before she was murdered by her husband, 34-year-old Shanann Watts reached out to a friend and shared her growing concerns about her marriage -- but she never suspected she was in danger.. Grahm Coder says repeatedly, Help us bring them out of the cold." Have you forgotten what he did to her and his own children? He buried Shanann in a shallow grave near an oil-storage facility, and dumped his children's bodies into crude oil tanks. He was interviewed by the CBI but he hasn't made any other public statements as far as I'm aware. I followed the Hart murders, too. R118 Sorry. Ill never get tired of speculating about her Munchhausens. LEONARD said that people liked SHANANN. And no one to root for except those poor kids. Shanann was running another scam, Im positive. Jennifer Hart used her adopted children as props in her social media posts. Authorities still do not know exactly what led Chris who was having an affair with a co-worker to kill his whole family that fateful morning, after which he went on TV news to plead for her safe return.". My partner's half sister is like this. The more I look into that marriage, the worse I feel. RELATED:. Why are you so concerned about what these children look like? It doesnt matter what her past mistakes may or may not have been. How do you think she bought that house on a retail managers salary? They seem pale and fought lookingnot fat, but just a bit slack, unfocused and just unhealthy. He used the same blanket to kill 4-year-old Bella . Shanann Watts Met Husband Chris Online During Dark Period 8 Years Before Murder: 'He Is Amazing' Pregnant Mom Was Slain After Work Trip Then Allegedly Buried in 'Shallow Grave' by Husband. Spot on r147. Oh I hear you R26. She would also get child support but its based on income and its possible, only possible, she was making more than he was. Everybody was buying houses they couldn't afford and hoping to flip them for an easy profit. LEONARD had heard that SHANANN was really involved in Thrive. There were rumors that she was banging her boss, Hisham. She was an odious frau and I could believe she was a Munchausen's case. Watts. Anyway, its amazing that theres another chapter to this story; I wonder what the CO investigators could have possibly flown out to Wisconsin to hear, or what Chris could possibly think is big enough to have them come out there for. Im linking the other active DL thread (focused on Chris Watts) below. R220, did you see that house? Anyway, Chris apparently told detectives some more details about his crime according to local news reports today, but the reports didn't say what. And wondering how she could purchase the house on a retail managers salary. [quote]However, anyone who devotes MONTHS to harping on how annoying a dead woman was when she was alive, has all the screws loose. Shes the most interesting one, isnt she? Imagine sitting in a house you cannot afford with two kids and another on the way, and a wife who spends money like it is going out of style and who keeps texting you non-stop about why you aren't responding to her texts, etc.essentially, he married a harpie. I haven't seen a single post on DL or anywhere else demanding that Chris "should go free" (tasteless DL bitcherous joking aside) for any reason whatsoever. They owed Toys R Us a shitload of money. A Funeral Mass will be held 1PM on Saturday, September 1st 2018 at Sacred Heart Roman Catholic Church in Pinehurst with Rev. Interview with Leonard King, Shan'ann Watts' Ex-Husband [47th Tranche] | TRUE CRIME ROCKET SCIENCE W Wanda Sweitzer 41 followers More information Interview with Leonard King, Shan'ann Watts' Ex-Husband [47th Tranche] | TRUE CRIME ROCKET SCIENCE Book Series Covers Science Today Moving In Together Baby Hospital Rocket Science 100 Book Watts was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole. Why does everyone on this thread seem so willing to badmouth a victim none of you have met? Sandra Rzucek wrote that in her 2018 letter to the DA. Colorado doesnt care if a spouse is cheating. In a video posted online of her 34th birthday celebration, Shananns little girls, Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3, sang a sweet rendition of Happy Birthday to their mom as Shananns own mother, Sandra Rzucek, joins in via Facetime on Shananns phone. Please click here to get full access and no ads for $1.99 or less per month. They were large policies, $250k or $500k. WTF. Yes, R228, I agree with everything you wrote. Shanann Watts ex husband Leonard King - (Speaking about their relationship)https://reachableshop.com/https://www.instagram.com/reachableshop/Before ShanannWatts married #ChrisWatts, She was previously married to Leonard T. King, an attorney who was formerly with Arthur M. Blue Law Offices, P.A. Lucky for these scammers theres HIPAA. A prick from my town did this a few years ago too. Walking away from his family would've left him (and then, obviously) far better off than where he is now. R39 / r40, can you imagine Shanann hiking? LEONARD agreed to share my contact information with his wife for her to call, if she knew anything about SHANANN, possibly through Thrive.". Always always have your own liquid accounts if you are married! Interesting he says when things were not going well in their relationship, thats when she poured herself into work, out late, not coming home at all etc. 05:02 GMT 17 Aug 2018 Holy fuck. I feel its a form of abuse to film and live broadcast your family at all times. Husband Christopher Watts, 33, is being held without bail, and faces three counts of murder and three counts of interfering with evidence. The 500K was in 2015as of 2018, they were about 100K in debt (student loans, etc.) No, but the evidence to support it is in the discovery, R261. On a waitress/retail managers salary. Well, she shouldnt have . The girls needed two years of doctor visits before they finally received the correct diagnosis of asthma (the diagnosis was made by a PA). Covert Narcissist are incapable of real love and learn early on to mimic. Shanann was trying to make sense of it all. Chris also said he couldnt talk to her, she wouldnt listen. In the early morning hours of August 13, 2018, a young mother returned home from a business trip. The MIL was a cunt to her, too, but I think its because MIL recognized a fellow manipulator. Days before she was murdered by her husband, 34-year-old Shanann Watts reached out to a friend and shared her growing concerns about her marriage -- but she never suspected she was in danger. He must have hated them, because he spared them no suffering and didnt every try to shield them from their mothers murder in any way. Rinse and repeat in Colorado except the down payment probably came out of Chris's and/or her parents (who also filed bk) bank accounts. The amount received is based on the proportion each ex spouse earns, and the living arrangements for the children, and the poorer spouse gets the difference. \ 25 FEB-3 MARCH 2023 More adventures in \ } i " Back for the final series the Star Wars galaxy SRY. She was our pride and joy, a true gift from God. Two years later, he is housed at Dodge Correctional Institution, a maximum-security prison, in Waupun, Wisconsin. i saw a video where Shanann was making protein snacks with that thrive shit and said they were for the whole family to eat. I remember she mentioned in her video discussing this time period she portrayed herself as a hard worker that put him through school. R244, I firmly believe she was emotionally abusing and exploiting him. R59: Why is there a photo of a black woman and child on the shelf? Man, I wish he had consulted a lawyer. Chris is a total hottie, Shanan was a a lucky gal. Today, February 1, was Shannan's due date for her unborn baby. Chris Owns his dysfunctional behavior. Think hes still lying about some details? Thank you so much for providing all of the analyzation and conclusion because it defines this case as it was and is. R135, the timing of the name change seems to perfectly coincide with her fleeing from North Carolina and the Shan'annigens she had been involved in there. Study up! This has kept me entertained. He was booked on three counts each of first-degree murder and tampering with physical evidence on Thursday. LEONARD reported that he and SHANANN took out life insurance policies when they were married around 2004/2005 through USAA. He was sentenced to five life sentences without the possibility of parole, three to be served consecutively. LEONARD reported that he and SHANANN took out life insurance policies when they were married around 2004/2005 through USAA. A Funeral Mass will be held 1PM on Saturday, September 1st 2018 at Sacred Heart Roman Catholic Church in Pinehurst with Rev. Every quality I listed was well-documented in her videos and texts which revealed her dealings with others, as well as her attitude and perspective. Sorry, anyone that feels for this monster needs his or her head examined, pronto. Only parents can say that. Her husband clearly wasn't as smart as this guy. I'm surprised there is so much suspicion about how Shannan afforded that big house in NC. Like Bunnika. Men are just disposing of women like theyre garbage. This was from an interview with one of Shanann's Thrive friends, that they all were friendly. The. I think men (more than women) think Chris Watts is attractive. She then went to work in Charlotte, NC for a middle eastern guy that owned a tire and wheel business called Dirty South. Shanann and Christopher "The Murderer" Watts. Negligence. Its something Borderlines do, although I dont think she was one. She left home again to attend a quick work trip on Aug. 10, returning home just before 2 a.m. on Aug. 13. Dirty South is a custom car shop. I don't think sshe would EVER have been satisfied with any sense of "enough". Keith Griffith For Dailymail.com, Husband appears shackled in court after the bodies of his missing pregnant wife and their two daughters whom he confessed to killing are found at the Colorado oil field where he worked, Was husband who killed his pregnant wife and kids bitter over her sudden success? And, the deceased woman's mother did, as well? Divorced and hanging out at da club promoting the rim shop. Two days later, he was arrested in connection with their deaths. Her mother wasnt meddling in her business. No college degree, working as a manager of a tire/rim shop, builds a gigantic house. Replying to myself - FattieWattie should be pronounced Fatty Watty as in Wat that rhymes with Fat..Ive fucked up on the first post already :/. But I do wish he had let them live, and just walked off with his truck driver girlfriend. Of course what Chris Watts did in murdering his family and especially his children was horrendously wrong. https://www.businessinsider.co.za/professions-with-the-most-psychopaths-2018-5?r=US&IR=T. The documentary pieced together the events . The alienation, the excuses shes having a bad day, all of it. She alienated Chris from his friends. R136. When the song ends, Bella blows the candles out on the round cake adorned with a butterfly on the side. Shanann wanted one more child praying for a baby boy. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Plus, there was a newspaper article written about the tire place she worked in in NC, and in the article her name was spelled "Shanann," and a lawsuit filed against her with her named spelled "Shanann.". Walk away, wimp. Mrs. Watts is the smallest one. [quote]I dont trust every single thing he said & I still think he cares enough (for whatever reason) about his reputation & how people view him (close friends, family members like his mom & dad, and even Nichol K. and the public) to leave certain things out/fudge the truth about some of the incidents he described. https://www.wltx.com/article/news/slain-mom-2-daughters-had-been-in-sc-just-weeks-before-their-deaths/101-585544417, Was just being nosey and googling, do you think this is the same Arie King in N.C? Interview concluded at 1448 hour. Why cant people see this? A Funeral Mass will be held 1PM on Saturday, September 1st 2018 at Sacred Heart Roman Catholic Church in Pinehurst with Rev. This is the chilling final photo posted by a woman whose husband is accused of brutally murdering her and their two young daughters. ACTION TAKEN: CBI Agent GALBRAITH interviewed LEONARD KING by phone on 08/15/2018. And thats saying a lot. Im R39, so just to add - one of the most pathetic things about this case is Chris saying we never go on hikes.. Had Chris had 30k of his own liquid funds for the divorce and post-divorce actions, he couldve gotten primary physical custody of his kids, since Shannan wouldve no doubt engaged in parental alienation, factitious disorder by proxy, and financial disaster. So is Sandra referring to new debt that Shanann told her about? And Im pretty sure Colorado wouldve ruled that Shanann couldnt use her kids as props in any more public Thrive videos. LEONARD does not believe that the divorce decree addressed the life insurance policies. And charged all the furnishings on credit. Otherwise they can claim whatever and whos to say they are lying? I followed the guy who was having an affair with Chris for over a year after he came out and he never changed his stories and would go on many details. Odd that when her marriage to King ran into trouble her behavior exactly mirrored that of Chris in the months before the murders: Not waning to engage in conversation, shutting down, withdrawing, physically distancing herself within the home, etc. He described how he did it. LEONARD reported that he and SHANANN married in 2002/2003 and divorced in 2007/2008 in SC. Does anyone know when she began calling herself Shan'ann and why? Long gone are the days where a Dad is left penniless and without children, although so many posters think that is the deal. Hello. click ACCEPT. Chris would have been on the hook for everything. My god, as much as I cannot stand Shannan, Jennifer and Sarah Hart were much worse! She left her own recorded testimony and out of her own mouth she indictes herself. Watts, 35, reportedly detailed the gruesome slaying of Shanann Watts in one of his prison letters - and he also revealed that he'd been thinking about killing her for "weeks." 15 Maybe it was a neat and tidy rule. (ThePilot.com reports Leonard T. King, plaintiff vs. Shannon [sic] C. King, defendant in Moore County, North Carolina, Public Records - May 3, 2009)They had no children from their marriage together and have not communicated in over ten years he estimated. What a tragedy. She was 25. Text messages obtained in a Freedom of Information Act request by the Daily Mail show Shanann Watts was trying to save her marriage in the weeks before her husband, Chris Watts, murdered her and her two daughters. He assumed that SHANANN kept her policy and would have changed the beneficiary. The fact that he didn't anticipate her friends blowing up her phone shows how dumb he is. But murder isn't the answer -- & didn't he kill their kids too? 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